- What drives the German populace, Ingo Zamperoni?
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Titled Conversations Beyond the Studio: Ingo Zamperoni and Jessy Wellmer's Journey Across Germany
Ingo Zamperoni, the familiar face we see moderating "Tagesthemen" on ARD, embarked on a journey across Germany alongside his colleague Jessy Wellmer, aiming to understand the fears, concerns, and sources of courage that shape the people of this nation. The result of their explorations is the captivating report "What drives Germany forward?", now airing on ARD ahead of the federal election.
With a casual, approachable tone, let me share some insights from our exclusive chat with Mr. Zamperoni, as he delved into the heart of what motivates the German populace.
What sets Germany in motion, in just one sentence?
Personal economic insecurity and the yearning for control over migration, set against the backdrop of the ongoing conflict on European soil. It seems that the certainties that were firmly established in the 90s and early 2000s – peace, prosperity, and progress seemingly unfolding smoothly – are now being shaken. This waves of change affect many people deeply, and there's a palpable feeling that things cannot continue as they are now, and that transformative change is necessary.
So what then?
The people Zamperoni and Wellmer spoke with yearn for concretely tangible solutions to problems that affect their everyday lives. If democracy fails to deliver, their trust often wanes. It's essential to remain optimistic amidst the challenges we face, as other nations grapple with similar predicaments.
But isn't it only Germany facing these issues?
The frequency of comfort many other countries have enjoyed in the last few decades has well outpaced Germany's even-keeled existence. These countries have had to contend with more stringent austerity measures or war-related struggles. A critical question revolves around the capacity of politics to demand more from the people.
Were the traffic light coalition heavily criticized?
Conversations regarding the traffic light coalition elicited mixed emotions among the people they met. Surprisingly, the coalition was no longer in vogue, with many people looking forward, though a cloud of uncertainty loomed over the horizon. In a demonstration in a village in Bavaria, their sentiments were encapsulated in the form of a luminous query mark.
You visited a village in Bavaria with a population of 280, where a refugee center was planned. What was the sentiment among the villagers?
There were widespread fears and misgivings about the impact of 130 refugees on the village, which already struggles with a population of 280 individuals with no local amenities. Many felt that, despite not being inherently against immigration, the managed growth and integration of immigrants would be difficult, especially given the potential for conflicts.
The protester was a Green, which was quite a surprise, wasn't it?
Indeed, the Green protester's stance caught Zamperoni off guard, serving as an intriguing element in their report. Nevertheless, his mother's approval of the protest, as it was less about opposition to immigration and more about expressing widespread anxiety about uncontrolled immigration, resonated with him.
What about Ulrich Nothwang, a conscientious objector turned defender of Germany with a weapon?

Their conversation with Ulrich Nothwang, who had once refused military service due to conscientious objections and now voluntarily serves in the military, left an indelible impression on Zamperoni. Their discussion took place at an army base in Muenster, where military equipment, including 2000 howitzers and Leopard tanks, were omnipresent. The harsh reality of the war on Europe suddenly became all too tangible.
Is the war now in your backyard?
Indeed. It was a sobering realization that Nothwang, a contemporary of Zamperoni's, came to this decision in light of recent events. The war does seem distressingly imminent, making the current situation particularly intense.
What does Holger Münch, the head of the Federal Criminal Police Office, have to say about the security situation in Germany?
Holger Münch maintains that the security situation is tenuous, with an unprecedented surge in politically motivated crimes last year. Germany remains a secure nation, but its status as a safe nation is under threat as traditional crime types persist, and hybrid crimes – like cyber threats - pose new challenges to society.
Did you and Jessy Wellmer leave Germany with a sense of optimism?
Despite the challenges, there's a healthy dose of optimism present. In a Bremen-based fourth-generation painting company, employees with diverse backgrounds have unified to navigate the shifting tides, fostering a sense of resilience.
You met Uli Wickert, an 82-year-old ex-Tagesschau anchor, who echoes similar sentiments of optimism and resilience.
Uli Wickert, a sage disciple of hope, shares a belief in taking breaks from panic-inducing narratives to approach issues with clear minds. This approach allows us to navigate through adversity in a pragmatic, yet optimistic fashion.
In the US, you produced the report "Trump, My American Family, and Me". Was the situation in Germany mirrored in your family's political views?
Both sides of the family hold differing political ideologies; however, German families generally shy away from discussing their voting choices as openly as Americans do.
Is there any parallel trend you noticed in terms of politically divided families?
Certainly, there's a similar discord among German families too, where differing political views can strain relationships.
What can we learn from these explorations beyond the studio?
Thereport, "What moves Germany?", offers valuable insights into courage and its sources across various dimensions of German society, from climate challenges and economic inequality to immigration, education, and media freedom. It challenges us to approach these issues with a mix of optimism and resolve, recognizing that our collective courage can propel us towards a more prosperous and harmonious future.

- In their exploration across Germany, Ingo Zamperoni and Jessy Wellmer discussed the topic of 'migration' with some villagers in Bavaria, who expressed concerns about the impact of refugee centers on their small community and the challenges of managed growth and integration.
- During their journey, Ingo Zamperoni had an unexpected encounter with a Green protester against a refugee center, which resonated with his interviewee Ulrich Nothwang, who had once been a conscientious objector but now saw the importance of defense amidst the conflict on European soil.
- As they travelled through Germany, Zamperoni and Wellmer's report highlighted the ongoing 'widerstand' against various issues, including immigration, but also showcased examples of resilience and optimism, like the Bremen-based painting company with diverse employees uniting to navigate changing tides.